On Friday, the group began the day by visiting with Judge Zahra, a judge in the criminal division of the NSW District Court. Judge Zahra gave a great presentation and, as always, was incredibly gracious and welcoming. After meeting with the judge, the students observed several criminal court proceedings, including both criminal trials and criminal sentencings.
In the afternoon, the students visited Baker & McKenzie law firm. Georgie Farrant gave a detailed and excellent presentation on white collar crime in Australia. Along with the exceptional presentation materials, the Baker & McKenzie visit offered the students the opportunity to take in the amazing views across Sydney Harbour from their offices.
Follow Southern Illinois University School of Law students as they travel to Sydney, Australia in 2015 as part of a legal globalization and comparative law course regarding international white collar crime.
Sydney, Australia
Thursday, June 11, 2015
Student Post - Jamika Hilliard
The most memorable part of the trip so far was the police and justice museum. The first part of the tour involved a slide show of convicts. Then we were marched to the courtroom and given a position in life. I was a juror, not what I expected, judge would have been more suitable. However, I digress.
There were several convicts confined to "the dock." The dock was a holding cell for convicts during court. We learned that the dock is no longer around because it automatically made convicts look guilty.
The dock took me to the past for a moment. I pictured myself sitting in a courtroom looking at the convicts and imagined the police trying to haul a convict away. I imagined it being a terrible thing to witness.
I imagined a convict holding on to the cell bars, while his hands were beat. I imagined screams from the convicts and their families. I imagined the odor of the convicts and the room they had to share with 13 others. I could only imagine these things. One thing that I do not have to imagine is being an American. This museum visit made me remember how lucky I am.
Student Post - Sydney Grover
So far I have had one of the best experiences in Sydney. From landing, to attending the NSW lecture and the U.S. consultant all the way to Vivid Sydney was a rewarding experience. That gave me a greater understanding and appreciation for the culture, specifically how much walking the Australians do in a day. One event that we did that helped me appreciate Sydney more was the historic walking tour. Our tour guide, Sophie, was very informative and funny, which made the tour a breeze. One spot in particular that I will never forget is the first church we saw, Anglican Church of Australia, The Garrison Church, it was on the corner of Argyle next to a very expensive neighborhood. Inside the church it was very grand and beautiful with grand windows, that had engravings on them from certain families. She told us the history of the church, which was that it was supposed to be a school for the community, but someone of higher authority came to town and declared that is should be a church instead, so that is what it became. A year later that man's brother in-law became the priest, isn't that a coincidence. An experience to remember with wonderful imaginary forever in my memory.
Student Post - Chris Davault
One of the reasons why I chose to do the Legal Globalization Australia trip was that I wanted to see and experience some of what Australia has to offer. The past few days in Sydney have been fantastic. Our group met new people and we were exposed to careers in the legal system involving White Collar Crime. We went to several museums and attractions and all have been great. The day trip to the Blue Mountains was great, you just have to go there to experience the beauty of the mountains.
Along with this, one of my other favorite experiences was going to the U.S. Consulate and learning about the different roles the consulate plays. The time we spent talking to several people has allowed for a better understanding of relations the U.S. has with other countries. We learned the U.S. has had a presence with Australia since the 1830s and it shows. Coming here seems like one is not in another country mostly. Sydney feels more like New York.
I am glad I decided to be apart of this opportunity.
Student Post - Kathleen Boles
Today we took a tour to the Blue Mountains. The first stop was to the Featherdale Wildlife Park where we were able to pet a koala and kangaroos. We were also able to observe a variety of indigenous animals such as the wombat, the dingo and the wallaby, among others. In addition to the animals we saw, I was surprised at how many different birds were indigenous to Australia. My favorite was being able to feed and interact with the kangaroos. They were very tame and friendly and seemed to really enjoy ice cream cones.
After the zoo and a quick lunch, we drove to the Blue Mountains and were able to see a variety of Aboriginal tribal dances and were introduced to the Aboriginal culture. The dances were very interesting to watch and many of them involved mimicking the movements of indigenous animals like the kangaroo and the emu. I was reminded very much of the Native American culture in the United States.
After the tribal dances, we took cable cars further into the mountains and got better views of the landscape and a rock formation called the Three Sisters. I was surprised to find out that the Blue Mountains are called such because the Eucalyptus trees emit a lot of oil, which creates a haze around the mountains, giving them a blue color. It was also interesting to be in the rainforest in the Blue Mountains, on a day like today because it was such a brisk day. I always picture a rainforest as a very humid and tropical place, but today it was rather chilly and damp.
Student Post - Natalie Kase
Today we visited Ernst & Young. I really enjoyed hearing the speaker from the firm because of the experience I had in the FCPA class. The content of the presentation reinforced many of the themes I learned in my dedicated FCPA course and the International White Collar Crime component of this course. The speaker tied in a lot of themes, such as the mentality and attitudes of the white collar criminal and the efforts of compliance departments. Particularly, I found it useful to hear what large international firms look for in hiring international candidates and how to break into the enforcement field of work.
Picture with U.S. Consul General
Many thanks to the U.S. Consulate in Sydney for providing us with the below picture of the students with U.S. Consul General Llorens. He gave a wonderful presentation to the students.
Thursday - Ernst & Young and Whale Watching
On Thursday, the students spent the morning learning about international fraud investigations from Rob Locke at Ernst & Young in Sydney. The students thoroughly enjoyed the discussion and learned a great deal about this evolving and complex field.
In the afternoon, the group went whale watching off the Australian coast.
In the afternoon, the group went whale watching off the Australian coast.
Friday, June 5, 2015
Student Post - Amelia Finch
The day that stood out the most to me was Tuesday, June 2. We visited the U.S. Consulate and heard from a few different individuals who shared different views of their respective perspectives of international white collar crime, corruption, and terrorism. We heard from the U.S. Consulate General, an individual from the U.S. Department of state, and an individual from the F.B.I. Going into this trip, I knew I wanted to be in the investigation field of white collar crime, but hearing from all of these individuals really opened my eyes to many different career paths that I had never before thought of. After hearing from these individuals, I found a new excitement about my future.
Student Post - Justin Nollau
I was somewhat surprised by Sydney’s real estate prices. I knew they were expensive, but not that high. Much like any large city, real estate prices tend to rise the closer you get to downtown. $3.5 million for a one-bedroom apartment in the historic district caught me off guard. I was surprised to learn that rent was calculated on a weekly scale. This seems like an excessive system. I see the benefit of a potential shorter time to learn of a renter’s intent to default, but there is also the burden of trying to collect rent every week. I would be interested to learn more about how often wages are paid to employees. When it comes to government subsidized housing, the system seems odd as it seems to create a dependency on receiving government money. Having to report income seems fair, but demanding payment of almost all one’s income appears to create a cycle of poverty. How are individuals going to break out of the system under current constraints?
Student Post - Julie Bullock
Australia has been an interesting trip. The mixture and variety of cultures here are even more numerous than in America. I have always considered our country to be one of the most successful mixtures of cultures and ethnicity, but Australia is impressive. I attended mass at one of the most beautiful Catholic cathedrals I have ever seen, St. Mary's, located in the Hyde Park region of Sydney. I literally had goosebumps as we listened to the choir sing. They were amazing. The church is an architectural masterpiece with huge, beatify archways. My grandfather is going to be thrilled to learn that I was able to see and attend mass at the church. Prior to leaving the States, he informed me of the places he would like to visit if he had the chance, as he always does before I vacation, and it will make him so happy to see the program I will bring back and to see my pictures of St. Mary's.
Today we visited the U.S. consulate general. I learned how important Australia's global relations with the United States are. I did not realize how closely the United States and Australia work together on things such as combating terrorism. The speakers were so informative and really gave me new perspectives about how the global economy is changing. They informed us that the United States' economy and continuation as a dominant force in the world's market is very dependent on its relations with Australia. I had no idea that the pacific region has so many dominant influences on world trade and it was refreshing to see how countries are working together as a global community to combat our world problems. It was also interesting to learn how well Australia's financial state is due to their vast resources. It is apparent that there is a lot of money and wealth in Australia, and perhaps gives me hope that our country, too, can continue to have great success in this tough world.
Today we visited the U.S. consulate general. I learned how important Australia's global relations with the United States are. I did not realize how closely the United States and Australia work together on things such as combating terrorism. The speakers were so informative and really gave me new perspectives about how the global economy is changing. They informed us that the United States' economy and continuation as a dominant force in the world's market is very dependent on its relations with Australia. I had no idea that the pacific region has so many dominant influences on world trade and it was refreshing to see how countries are working together as a global community to combat our world problems. It was also interesting to learn how well Australia's financial state is due to their vast resources. It is apparent that there is a lot of money and wealth in Australia, and perhaps gives me hope that our country, too, can continue to have great success in this tough world.
Student Post - Neil Reynolds
I woke up in Sydney for the first time this morning. I walked out the door, and I am greeted by the most incredible view. Sydney Opera House and Sydney Harbor Bridge, two of Sydney’s most famous landmarks simultaneously with the sun barely peeking out from the clouds behind them. I walk a few steps onto the patio and I sit down to work on the Law Journal write on competition. I am the only one on the patio. After about 5 minutes, someone comes walking onto the patio. He stands there taking in the view for a few moments and then he approaches me. He asks me where I am from and what I am doing here. I tell him. He asks me if I have studied the Aborigines, the indigenous people of Australia. I tell him we have, and that they were treated very similarly to the Native Americans in my country. He identifies himself as an Aboriginal Australian. His name is Joel Bailey.
We talk for the remaining hour before I have to leave for breakfast. We began talking about his job and the general routine of life for him in Australia. Instead of a monthly rent like we have in USA, they pay by the week. He says many people in Australia live week to week, and he is one of them. I asked him about minimum wage laws in Australia. He told me they didn’t have a minimum wage. Your wage is determined by your age group and your occupation. Age groups he mentioned were “youth” and “adult.” Occupations would vary tremendously I imagine. He told me when he was a youth he made $6.25 an hour. Interestingly enough, this is exactly what my first wage was at Burger King in the US. He currently makes $25 an hour. The important thing I took away was that there was a lot of varying wages all over Australia, and no set minimum, but the minimum possible wage would be reserved for a youth under age 18.
He then started talking about his family and how they lived. He is the only member of his family living week to week, and working for his wage. The other members of his family live off of the government. He says the government pays them $200-250 per week, and their quality of life is not very good. He tries to push his sister and his mother to get jobs and make around $400 a week like him so that they can afford to spend money on things like alcohol and entertainment, but they just do not want to work. He is happy working hard during the week and having fun on weekends. He also takes pride in earning things for himself instead of having everything handed to him. He wonders why his family doesn’t at least try it.
He also talked about the apology. When he was in high school the government issued an apology to aborigines for the “lost generation,” a time when aboriginal children were taken by the government in an effort to assimilate them into the culture (or perhaps other more nefarious reasons). He was the only aboriginal at his high school. They brought him up on stage in front of the entire school to apologize to him. They let him say a few words. He tells them that they have nothing to apologize for. No one in that room had anything to do with the lost generation. They had no reason to apologize, and he could not accept their apology.
Finally, we talked about video games. He played a lot of the same video games as I did. Including World of Warcraft (“WoW”). WoW is the reason I am so interested in visiting Australia, and why I have so many friends in this country to visit. We exchanged information, and when I get back to the states I can add him as a friend in WoW so that we can play video games together.
Student Post - Going to the Gardens - Emily Frazer
The highlight of my week so far was nothing too academic
(although everything was incredibly interesting). When I stepped onto the grounds of Sydney,
Australia’s Botanical Gardens my heart melted a little bit. I played with Cockatoos, climbed on rocks jutting
out of Sydney Harbor, defended my carrot cake from suspicious looking birds,
and ambled through the beautiful trees of Australia with my friends and fellow
law students. I couldn’t have had a more
pleasant day.
Our group also went to the ANZAC Memorial
by St. Mary’s Cathedral and I was humbled.
They lost so many at Gallipoli and in so many other wars and yet, I
don’t actually remember a time when I learned Australia, specifically, ever
joined in a fight. Neither my history
classes, nor my general education ever really covered it. In a way though, I suppose, this makes their
dedication to freedom that much more valuable because they are the unsung
heroes. As I left, I took a long pause
in contemplation and was saddened by the loss, but grateful for their
service.
It should be said again, thank you.
Wednesday, June 3, 2015
Wednesday - Blue Mountains Visit
On Wednesday, the group rose early to travel to the Blue Mountains outside Sydney. The first stop was to a wildlife park, where the students had the opportunity to pet Koalas and feed wallabies.
We then continued on to see the famous Three Sisters rock formation and attend a fascinating Aboriginal Australian ceremonial performance.
Tuesday - The U.S. Consulate and Vivid Sydney Cruise
Today, the students visited the U.S. Consulate, where they were honored to meet with U.S. Consul General Hugo Llorens. During the visit, the students also met with representatives of the IRS Criminal Investigation division, FBI, and Diplomatic Security Service. It was a wonderful visit and a great opportunity for the students to learn more about international enforcement actions and white collar criminal prosecutions worldwide.
After the Consulate visit, the students took a cruise around Sydney Harbour to see some the lights from the annual Vivid Sydney festival.
After the Consulate visit, the students took a cruise around Sydney Harbour to see some the lights from the annual Vivid Sydney festival.
Tuesday, June 2, 2015
Monday - The Courts and a Walking Tour of the Rocks
On Monday, the group began the day by visiting the Supreme Court of New South Wales. During the visit, the students were able to meet with a representative of the court to learn more about the court's operation and the application of criminal law in Australia. The students then watched several appellate arguments in criminal matters.
In the afternoon, the group enjoyed a walking tour of The Rocks with a special focus on the role of law in early Australia.
In the afternoon, the group enjoyed a walking tour of The Rocks with a special focus on the role of law in early Australia.
The First Couple of Days in Sydney
As the week progresses, this blog will feature photos of the group's activities, along with individual blog entries by the students discussing some of their unique learning experiences in Australia. Below are a few pictures from activities during the first couple of days.
The group arrived on Saturday and spent much of the day adjusting to the new surroundings.
On Sunday, the group enjoyed touring the Hyde Park Barracks Museum and the Police and Justice Museum. Each offered hands-on opportunities to experience Australia's past and learn more about the important role law has played in the country's history.
After touring the museums and spending the afternoon at a festival in Manly Beach, the group gathered at Hugo's in Manly for a wonderful welcome dinner. We arrived just in time for a spectacular Sydney sunset.
The group arrived on Saturday and spent much of the day adjusting to the new surroundings.
On Sunday, the group enjoyed touring the Hyde Park Barracks Museum and the Police and Justice Museum. Each offered hands-on opportunities to experience Australia's past and learn more about the important role law has played in the country's history.
After touring the museums and spending the afternoon at a festival in Manly Beach, the group gathered at Hugo's in Manly for a wonderful welcome dinner. We arrived just in time for a spectacular Sydney sunset.
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